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New question! So if and when the transition from spark to non-spark gets finalized, will a mage keep their mutations after they go sparkless, or do all the mutations vanish.
I know it says that sparkless magic has no mutations but I'd like some clarity because its not clear how connected sparks are to physical mutations. Like if some dude had an extra arm growing out his spine, would that kind of just schlorp back into him the moment the spark goes away?

Also when shifting from spark to sparkless or visa versa, it says the knowledges are kept. Would the skillpoints also be kept? It doesnt seem to say specifically.

Thanks!

Netzach Embersoul wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 7:33 pm New question! So if and when the transition from spark to non-spark gets finalized, will a mage keep their mutations after they go sparkless, or do all the mutations vanish.
I know it says that sparkless magic has no mutations but I'd like some clarity because its not clear how connected sparks are to physical mutations. Like if some dude had an extra arm growing out his spine, would that kind of just schlorp back into him the moment the spark goes away?

Sparks have been removed through plotting in the past. Typically removal of sparks is done by a higher being such as an Immortal, or other. There are other methdods also that have worked in the past (Which were very dangerous indeed), some involving catastrophic loss of a kind. Basicallyyou'd make the spark removal part of your plot submission when you've gone through the hoops of whatever method you've settled on (meditation/research/ensorcelling), and when the time comes we'd carry out the spark removal. Otherwise spark removal remains the same as it was, it's not strictly automatic, unfortunately upon learning the methods of non-spark, although we will be offering it as a matter of course if you wish to swap.

But yes, once the spark is gone, the mutations would go away. How you handle that and how gradually? usually they go away immediately in cases where it's happened, but you can have a more gradual change back to normal in case you're worried about cartoonish plot whiplash .

Also when shifting from spark to sparkless or visa versa, it says the knowledges are kept. Would the skillpoints also be kept? It doesnt seem to say specifically.

Thanks!

The knowledges are kept and so long as you don't remove the xp earned while having a spark (typically to spend elsewhere), you can keep the xp too.

When a non-spark mage reaches the requirements for a new level (competent, expert, master) would they PSF it like a spark-mage, or advance it like a non-mage skill?

Dandelion wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2024 9:57 pm When a non-spark mage reaches the requirements for a new level (competent, expert, master) would they PSF it like a spark-mage, or advance it like a non-mage skill?

The only purpose of psfing level-ups through PSF were to sort mutations. Sparkless mages don't get awakening mutations as they level up, so no, it'd function more like a non-mage skill until revelation.

Pig Boy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2024 11:39 am To be honest, the whole spark-to non-spark is still being discussed, mostly with regards to the eviction of a spark from one's soul and how/when that is accomplished in relation to non-spark magic learning. But in any case, however a spark is ejected, one must then learn through the methods provided to Research'Meditation/Ensorcelling skills in order to regain the magic through that method.

would expelling a spark and not learning the magic through other means result in one of the players magic 'slots' opening up?

also, does removing the spark require us to go through the psf for the time being?

Illuvia wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:53 pm
would expelling a spark and not learning the magic through other means result in one of the players magic 'slots' opening up?

Yeah I don't see why not, if you surrendered your xp and didn't learn it again. Why not? You are referring to the soft limit of 4 magics? Right? However once desparked, you lose all sparks from all magics. There's no picking and choosing which ones to lose. Because the sparks freak out sorta when one of them gets expelled, it sorta leaves a bit of a stink on the soul that lost a spark. Thereafter, you cannot learn spark magics at all.

also, does removing the spark require us to go through the psf for the time being?

Losing a spark as part of a plot is something you'd want to discuss with a local mod before going to the psf. They can tell you of your options and possible ways to despark IIf they're unsure, they can seek guidance with the rest of staff. But I'm sure a local mod could figure out a plot for you to follow that will fit the bill.

Are PCs able to teach magic that they know to apprentice NPCs if the PC don't have a spark to initiate them? Assuming that the NPC has the sufficient skill in research, meditation, or ensorcelling to learn magic, of course.

Illuvia wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 11:29 am Are PCs able to teach magic that they know to apprentice NPCs if the PC don't have a spark to initiate them? Assuming that the NPC has the sufficient skill in research, meditation, or ensorcelling to learn magic, of course.

Hi, so I'm not ignoring this question, but we need to discuss this as staff since it might involve an update of the magic apprentice write-up.

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I had another question

When you learn magic from absorbing from a well, is the magic you get based on the well? For example an elemental one would give defiance while the illusion one would give glamour?

Illuvia wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2024 11:33 am
When you learn magic from absorbing from a well, is the magic you get based on the well? For example an elemental one would give defiance while the illusion one would give glamour?

Mechanically, no. There's nothing in the ensorcelling write-up that suggests this.

However it makes my brain tingle in a happy way to think of wells being associated with the magic you learn from them. But no.

Also firestones and the other well you mentioned are class 1. Wells need to be at least class 2 for the first magic, so you'll want to combine them anyway.